I find this Zerohedge post about where to choose your "prepper hidey hole" about as monumentally wrong headed as can be.
The reason it is so (it seems to me) is that it imagines a circumstance where virtually all social structure disappears simultaneously along with most of the people. It imagines the prepper can simply hold themselves above the crisis whatever it is, and not be touched by it except as he chooses. It's a fantasy that starts after most of the people are already gone.
There is no megalomaniac ex congressman forming his own Army, or minister declaring a Jihad on the "people who brought us such suffering", or any of the things that would actually be likely to take place if either most of the people, or most of the government were to disappear all at once.
It's a lot like that nonsense I read a while back about "no one being able to buy anything after the power goes off" because the mystery of making change or extending local credit has been lost to the sands of time. It assumes the things preppers like will be in great supply, and the things preppers don't like (mostly people that they think are stupid), won't be. It's stupid romance not proper risk management.
It imagines either local only catastrophes becoming global (even though they don't scale) or global problems being manageable as a solitary decision maker (a dubious assertion for any non billionaire).
In short, it buys into all the romantic Hollywood ideas of how a civilization falters, and addresses none of the realities. It is, in my opinion, more a product of mental illness, and paranoia than effective risk management.
Mostly I like Zerohedge but this is just stupid... monumentally stupid.
Here's some stuff I've written in the past which I think summarizes my feelings why. It's probably best if you read these in the order I wrote them, since none was specifically designed to refute paranoid prepper nonsense.
The Myth Of American Self Reliance
Read the comments on this one too:
What if The S*** Never Hits The Fan
I think the comments for this one are worthwhile too:
SHTF-2, Revenge Of The Anti-Social
That should give you the basic idea of how I view the management of societal tail risk.
I know a lot of preppers seem to have this built in idea that they are smarter than everyone, but take it from a guy who is smarter than a lot of people, there is always someone smarter than you. I've met literally hundreds of people who I think are smarter than me. And if it was a push come to shove battle for survival against any of them I would want to be a part of the mob, not fighting them off.
A pack of wild dogs can kill any lion.
%%%%%%%%%%%%UPDATE%%%%%%%%%%%% I see that this original thread has made it over to FreeRepublic, and to be honest I thought for sure they'd all buy into it's stupidity. If the comments I saw are any reasonable guide then it turns out it's too stupid for them as well. Good for them.

10 comments:
I was raised without running water till 15... outhouse yes...lovely rolling maggots all summer that you would cover with lime.Where i live now is secluded with a well. However i have become such a woos I would be the first guy to try and catch the meteor or whatever else is going to wipe us out.I dont want to live without a/c.I am soft.. If yellowstone cauldron is going to blow I will be the guy on the interstate driving towards it.If I can go quick bring it on..
The dude writing this article sounds good but my guess would be he was sipping a frozen pina colada while he was writing it.
They all are Chess.
They're all 80lbs overweight and can't run from the refrigerator to the couch. They think if they buy a cabin in the woods and stock it full of ammo and MRE's there won't be a 'welcoming party' of locals sitting on is porch eating them when he arrives.
And even if they aren't, when they run out of food he's not someone they know and like, he's the suspicious stranger from the city who seems 'pretty well fed'.
They'll burn him out and sack what's left.
None of these people have ever been poor or hungry and they don't know what poor hungry people do. If it's been three days since my daughter has eaten I'll burn him out myself.
Stupid.
Anyone here ever visit the Surviving Argentina blog? I actually purchased a copy of Ferfal's book. He echos a lot of what Tom has stated on FreeNJ.
I've been told I should build this stuff into as book, but I can't imagine that anyone would be willing to buy it. It's too optimistic, and these people are only interested in doom and gloom.
Tom...You could do a variation of ? Marc Faber. He does the boom doom and gloom report, I think. Its just that your Boom would add a whole new meaning.
I watched about 30 minutes of preppers once and it was everything you said Tom...I watched infested once and had nightmares about bedbugs.. I am not allowed to go that high up in the channels anymore.. I think the lab put in some parental blocks on the remote.Good girl...
Awake and coffee..Tom once again I have lived the lifestyle but with friendly people around. I know how harsh it could be and thats why i would go towards the death rather than away. As you stated a pack of 14 yr olds could take me down if there are enough.there was a movie a longtime ago about the Zulu killin a whole brigade of English because they just kept coming.Hell look at nature... 1 fire ant and its an ouch. A thousand fire ants and you might be dead..when these folks nicotine runs out or the m/m peanuts they will go insane.
One last thing and to me it is a big one...I was watching Kudlow last night and Barry Knapp who is ok painted a scenerio in 1980 when Reagan came outa nowhwere and won and gave a country HOPE. The dow rallied 45% in 6 months.He started painting it for R omney. Now Mitt aint no Ronnie but this country is so fed up with BHO shit I think we could explode with HOPE.
Tie that to watching BHO stumpin yesterday and for the first time EVER I saw fear in his eyes.He had some swagger but not "his " swagger..So I texted a friend and here it is-----Romney wins. EU zone cuts Greece and we survive. BY end of 2015 the dow is in the 17000s.And this freakin country has HOPE.Tom I am on board.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zerohedge is a doomsday cult. It is a pissing match to see which lemming can "out-doom" the other. While I enjoy the Nigel farage clips, zh has become that bar on the oter side of town where the took down the dartboard. No fun
Ikaika.....I have been up all night with my Walmart calculator tring to figure out how oil falling off a cliff and unemployment numbers off a cliff anf yet BHO sees the economy picking up?????????? And worse the silly libtards in the crowd giving him a standing ovation for his hard work???????????....What is my simple mind missing?..
I recall reading several years ago the City and Regional Planning programs, at least halfway decent ones, generally had classes on Lebanon--a country where everything fell apart, with no infrastructure left, but keep muddling along. Things are better there now then they were when I read about this. Things move along and people muddle along.
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